Comments on: Forget the 9-5 http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/ Passionate, Committed, Bliss Chaser Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:33:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jack http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-4149 Jack Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:46:17 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-4149 I agree with another poster - you may have to be a 'cog in a machine' for a few years to pay off debt or save up. Not everyone has an idea like Tim Ferris. Not everyone can just outsource their life or jetset to a foreign country in a flash - work for any company and you'll a cog in a machine, even if two of your friends started a company and hired you. And, well, we have to do something with our time now that we've graduated, right? Learning all kinds of new things is great but being a 'cog in a machine' for some time will teach you about what you really want in life and further inspire you to escape the machine. I agree with another poster – you may have to be a ‘cog in a machine’ for a few years to pay off debt or save up. Not everyone has an idea like Tim Ferris. Not everyone can just outsource their life or jetset to a foreign country in a flash – work for any company and you’ll a cog in a machine, even if two of your friends started a company and hired you.

And, well, we have to do something with our time now that we’ve graduated, right? Learning all kinds of new things is great but being a ‘cog in a machine’ for some time will teach you about what you really want in life and further inspire you to escape the machine.

]]> By: Jim Munro http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-3027 Jim Munro Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:55:57 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-3027 I can't agree more. Don't become a cog in Yet Another Big Dumb Company. Not the way to go. Getting out of the old way of doing things came a little late for some of us. Perhaps the banging your head against a keyboard is a good sign that something is wrong and that you're not such a cog after all. Use it as inspiration, read those books and do something for yourself. Some just take longer to figure this out than others. ;) I can’t agree more. Don’t become a cog in Yet Another Big Dumb Company. Not the way to go. Getting out of the old way of doing things came a little late for some of us.

Perhaps the banging your head against a keyboard is a good sign that something is wrong and that you’re not such a cog after all. Use it as inspiration, read those books and do something for yourself.

Some just take longer to figure this out than others. ;)

]]> By: aboxy http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-3007 aboxy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:03:36 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-3007 Excellent stuff Nicholas. Thanks. Bought some stuff through your affiliate link. Excellent stuff Nicholas.
Thanks. Bought some stuff through your affiliate link.

]]> By: Chris Jordan http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2909 Chris Jordan Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:17:42 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2909 Nick, Thanks for the great response and for getting a conversation started. While a believe in the theory that Tim Ferris put out in his book, my post was not to advocate a four-hour work week. Rather, I am hoping that 2010 is the year of visionaries and new ideas (in industries other than tech). I'm not advocating quitting a job to go for broke with an entrepreneurial idea. I'm advocating working hard on being smart. Being smart may in fact be working a regular job. But being smart is also setting things in motion before and after working hours to build your own something, so you can one day get out of the grind. Like Gary Vaynerchuk says, don't go home and play Madden for four hours. Woody makes that a great point by mention of balance. You have to be able to pay bills, etc. My definition of a "cog" is someone who gets up, goes to work, goes home and simply accepts things for what they are - always. Totally complacent. Many are okay with that, and that is what I hope will change. It is a leading cause for a lack of progress in America. I have ran my own business for nine short months after working regular jobs for seven years following college. My experience this far has shown me that there is no such thing as a four hour work week. Maybe there is one day, but I'm working harder then ever before. But I'm happy. Balance, and "regular jobs" got me to this point. Now all I can do is execute on the many visions I have. Thanks again for the response and for starting some GREAT conversation here! Nick, Thanks for the great response and for getting a conversation started. While a believe in the theory that Tim Ferris put out in his book, my post was not to advocate a four-hour work week. Rather, I am hoping that 2010 is the year of visionaries and new ideas (in industries other than tech). I’m not advocating quitting a job to go for broke with an entrepreneurial idea. I’m advocating working hard on being smart. Being smart may in fact be working a regular job. But being smart is also setting things in motion before and after working hours to build your own something, so you can one day get out of the grind. Like Gary Vaynerchuk says, don’t go home and play Madden for four hours.

Woody makes that a great point by mention of balance. You have to be able to pay bills, etc. My definition of a “cog” is someone who gets up, goes to work, goes home and simply accepts things for what they are – always. Totally complacent. Many are okay with that, and that is what I hope will change. It is a leading cause for a lack of progress in America.

I have ran my own business for nine short months after working regular jobs for seven years following college. My experience this far has shown me that there is no such thing as a four hour work week. Maybe there is one day, but I’m working harder then ever before. But I’m happy. Balance, and “regular jobs” got me to this point. Now all I can do is execute on the many visions I have.

Thanks again for the response and for starting some GREAT conversation here!

]]> By: Woody http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2864 Woody Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:00:08 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2864 All good Jennifer I agree with you. I am 23 and am hopefully on the right path :) All good Jennifer I agree with you. I am 23 and am hopefully on the right path :)

]]> By: Jennifer Nelson http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2863 Jennifer Nelson Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:54:13 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2863 Woody- you are correct. I live debt free. I save. I make money work for me not against me. This is my life and I am the creator of my experience here- meaning, I recognize the need to restrain ego and focus on long term goals. I also like working- sales is as close to working for yourself as you can get without actually doing it. But still not the same as being in charge of your own time- Some people find it too risky. But rethinking risk is necessary too. I am a big fan of Rich Dad/ Poor Dad philosophies. If I could talk to my 23 year old self- I'd sit me down and make me understand the concept of leverage and money. I didn't learn without some trial and error. Lots of errors :>). Also when I was 23 the possibilities for wealth creation online did not exist- or I should say the possibilities were there, but internet accessibility was mostly for techies. Not so anymore. You whipper snappers have so much potential at your fingertips. So maybe you have to be a cog for a little bit to take care of business- just don't lose sight of your long term goals/exit strategy. My advice is go do the things you love and create a life for yourself that allows you personal sovereignty. Debt = slavery! Okay I'm hopping off soapbox now:>) Good luck to you all! Woody- you are correct. I live debt free. I save. I make money work for me not against me. This is my life and I am the creator of my experience here- meaning, I recognize the need to restrain ego and focus on long term goals. I also like working- sales is as close to working for yourself as you can get without actually doing it. But still not the same as being in charge of your own time- Some people find it too risky. But rethinking risk is necessary too. I am a big fan of Rich Dad/ Poor Dad philosophies. If I could talk to my 23 year old self- I’d sit me down and make me understand the concept of leverage and money. I didn’t learn without some trial and error. Lots of errors :>). Also when I was 23 the possibilities for wealth creation online did not exist- or I should say the possibilities were there, but internet accessibility was mostly for techies. Not so anymore. You whipper snappers have so much potential at your fingertips. So maybe you have to be a cog for a little bit to take care of business- just don’t lose sight of your long term goals/exit strategy. My advice is go do the things you love and create a life for yourself that allows you personal sovereignty. Debt = slavery!
Okay I’m hopping off soapbox now:>) Good luck to you all!

]]> By: Woody http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2858 Woody Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:44:30 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2858 Presumably though you saved some from the 6 figure job to get you on your way. I don't think its even a 4 hour work week I want, I quite like working, I just want to be self driven. Presumably though you saved some from the 6 figure job to get you on your way. I don’t think its even a 4 hour work week I want, I quite like working, I just want to be self driven.

]]> By: Jennifer Nelson http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2847 Jennifer Nelson Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:28:55 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2847 Ya'll should check out Hugh MacLeod's blog gapingvoid.com. He talks about what he calls "the sex and cash theory" there (also in his book "Ignore Everybody"). You may have already heard of it, but he talks about trying to balance the desire to "go for broke" entrepreneurship with the real world needs of like you know, eating and shelter and all those menial sorts of things. Kind of, do the cog thing to pay the bills but always be working on your "exit strategy" ala 4 hr. work week. As for me, I could have stayed a cog. I made 6 figures in medical sales before I made the jump. Lots of people think that's enough. But what I really wanted was sovereignty over my time- and the only way you get that is by working for yourself. Put that in your pipe and smoke it friends ;) Ya’ll should check out Hugh MacLeod’s blog gapingvoid.com. He talks about what he calls “the sex and cash theory” there (also in his book “Ignore Everybody”). You may have already heard of it, but he talks about trying to balance the desire to “go for broke” entrepreneurship with the real world needs of like you know, eating and shelter and all those menial sorts of things. Kind of, do the cog thing to pay the bills but always be working on your “exit strategy” ala 4 hr. work week.
As for me, I could have stayed a cog. I made 6 figures in medical sales before I made the jump. Lots of people think that’s enough. But what I really wanted was sovereignty over my time- and the only way you get that is by working for yourself. Put that in your pipe and smoke it friends ;)

]]> By: Markus @loimp http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2834 Markus @loimp Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:33:41 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2834 amen amen

]]> By: Woody http://www.nicholasreese.com/forget-the-9-5/#comment-2782 Woody Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:18:33 +0000 http://www.nicholasreese.com/?p=388#comment-2782 Im with you on the vision of doing what you love, and I have a similar earner to your email marketing and randomly I find my self in the same re-evaluation place as you. Its securing the essentials that allows us to scope out what we really want. Too many people work to get paid and live 40 hours of misery. In 2010 we should all try and find the thing we love to do and do that instead! :D Im with you on the vision of doing what you love, and I have a similar earner to your email marketing and randomly I find my self in the same re-evaluation place as you. Its securing the essentials that allows us to scope out what we really want. Too many people work to get paid and live 40 hours of misery.

In 2010 we should all try and find the thing we love to do and do that instead!
:D

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